tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7700499872509802627.post5309389760869209447..comments2012-06-04T04:27:06.151-07:00Comments on The Pillsbury Dough Girl: Words For Thought: Ideas and Other I- WordsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7700499872509802627.post-59670903863045919912012-02-29T20:49:00.387-08:002012-02-29T20:49:00.387-08:00I actually have no problem with you entirely disag...I actually have no problem with you entirely disagreeing on me, Noelle. (It's kind of the whole point even.) I think it's really cool that you're turning it into your thesis. It was more of a passing by thought that I had today.<br />I know that elephants and other animals definitely have ritual type things. (Also, interesting fact: rats dream about mazes they run through.) I also agree that we can't prove that they aren't having ideas and super crazy complex thoughts beyond our comprehension. Which would be cool if they did to say the least.<br />Maybe the teaching parables to your children and discussing God aren't the best examples, but my point is they don't (seem) to sit around and have philosophical discussions. They also don't appear to be as innovative as humans.<br />There are definitely different levels of intelligence and elephants and apes seem to be near the top of that. But my question is why aren't they building upon the learnings of previous generations and innovating new ways of thought/living?Heidihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03812256108255383646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7700499872509802627.post-17962618505617536942012-02-29T17:42:53.947-08:002012-02-29T17:42:53.947-08:00I actually don't agree with animals not being ...I actually don't agree with animals not being capable of having ideas. You define ideas as having parables to teach your children and talking about the existence of God, but I don't think those things adequately describe what an "idea" truly is. (Also on a more philosophical note, we can't ever be sure that they aren't having those thoughts). I consider an idea a new thought, something innovative, something done for pleasure, something with no real biological purpose. Animals have those "ideas" all the time. Look up anything about elephant death rituals and the MRI's that reveal PTSD symptoms. Sorry, I don't mean to completely disagree with you but this has recently become a subject of interest to me and I plan on taking my original 10 page essay about it and turning it into my thesis.Noelle Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15059335097743543911noreply@blogger.com